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Nov 05 2022

Valuation Mirage?

  • Nov 5, 2022

Thanks to the 2009-2021 experience, an entire generation of investors can’t distinguish between a stock market that’s down in price and one that’s actually “cheap.” The current bear market seems on course to make that distinction relevant again.

Oct 07 2022

A Valuation Check-Up

  • Oct 7, 2022

The P/E multiple on Trailing Peak GAAP EPS has plunged 44% from its year-ago peak of 32.5x. The current ratio of 18.1x is below its “New Era” median (1995-to-date) —but some conditions characterizing the New Era no longer apply.

Sep 08 2022

Another Stab At The “Downside”

  • Sep 8, 2022

How far might the S&P 500 fall in a recessionary bear market? The 2002 and 2020 stock market lows were both produced by “recessionary” bears; based on history back to the 1920s, those two lows stand out as the priciest bear market bottoms on record—and it’s not even close.

Jul 08 2022

How It Is—And Isn’t—Like Y2K

  • Jul 8, 2022

We previously promised to limit the amount of comparisons to Y2K, but the paths that a number of the usual suspects are taking look more and more like “something we’ve seen before”—in some cases down to the percentage point.

Jul 01 2022

How It Is, And Isn’t, Like Y2K

  • Jul 1, 2022

The 2022 economic backdrop is nothing like the near-Goldilocks environment accompanying the first few innings of the Y2K Tech bust. However, the action to-date in the former Growth stock leaders has followed the 2000-2002 path very closely—and almost on a point-for-point basis, when it comes to some  indexes. With the stock market “weight of the evidence” still negative, we wouldn’t be surprised if the Y2K analog holds for a while longer.

Mar 05 2022

Too Early To Buy?

  • Mar 5, 2022

Many investors will instinctively salivate at lower prices, whether or not they represent good value. Is there a better way to temper this Pavlovian impulse and improve results? We found it’s better to wait 25 days before re-entering the market after a 10%-correction threshold is breached.

Mar 05 2022

Reversion, But To Where?

  • Mar 5, 2022

The concept of “mean reversion” used to help build massive fortunes. Of late, a better mantra has been “maximum attraction,” as valuations and bullish psychology have matched or surpassed excesses of the Y2K Tech bubble. Meanwhile, corporate profit margins, once dubbed “the most mean-reverting series in finance” by Jeremy Grantham, have now topped those seen near the Y2K top by more than 50%.

Jan 07 2022

Even “True Believers” Should Read This

  • Jan 7, 2022

Consider it a sign of the times: Here is the most bullishly slanted version of our “Estimating The Downside” exercise we’ve ever put in print (and likely ever will).

May 07 2021

New Era Valuations?

  • May 7, 2021

We understand the various rationale for the upward shift in equity valuations seen over the last quarter century or so. Unfortunately, wiping away all market history prior to 1995 does not make stock valuations appear significantly less inflated. 

May 07 2020

Median Valuations: Down, But Not Cheap

  • May 7, 2020

If we assume that valuations will “bottom” at the “richest” levels ever seen at a bear market low, there’s still 32% downside remaining in the median S&P 500 stock.

May 07 2020

Calculate The Next Low... With The Last Peak?

  • May 7, 2020

How does one value a stock market in which 12-month forward EPS estimates show their widest dispersion in history? A good start might be with methods we use when forward estimates show practically no dispersion (like three months ago). In either case, we place little weight on such estimates; each revision usually has only marginal impact on our 5-Year Normalized EPS.

Apr 07 2020

Are Foreign Stocks Cheap Enough?

  • Apr 7, 2020

For those who must remain fully invested, an interesting (if not sickening) feature of the bear market is that those who entered it loaded with the most expensive and “trendiest” stocks and sectors have lost the least.

Mar 16 2020

Estimating The Downside

  • Mar 16, 2020

With the markets in freefall, we’ve seen a dramatic spike in interest in our monthly “Estimating the Downside” vignette. We think a mid-month snapshot is in order to give some idea as to how much meat has been taken off the valuation bone.

Jan 08 2019

Guess-timating The Downside

  • Jan 8, 2019

While our market disciplines remain negative, we certainly aren’t oblivious to the haircut in equity valuations that’s already occurred.

Nov 16 2018

Correction Creating Values?

  • Nov 16, 2018

While the consensus view remains that October’s stock market rout was “healthy” and “overdue,” we think it was  more likely the first leg down of much larger decline. But it’s still worth reviewing the improvement in valuations that market losses and this year’s excellent fundamentals have combined to produce.  

 

Oct 05 2018

The Two-Tiered Global Market

  • Oct 5, 2018

We should emphasize that our characterization of stocks as dangerously overvalued applies only to the U.S. market.

Oct 05 2018

Estimating The Downside: The G-Rated Version

  • Oct 5, 2018

The longevity of this bull market is impacting tactical asset allocators in ways great and small.

Jul 07 2018

An Old Chart Whose Time Has Come?

  • Jul 7, 2018

No, it’s not a 1990s-like love affair with the stock market. But it’s surely a sign of the times when TV pundits seem to have dropped even passing references to valuation when spinning their mostly bullish market yarns.

Oct 06 2017

Dialing In On Downside Risks

  • Oct 6, 2017

Question: Your “Estimating The Downside” section shows the S&P 500 would lose 26% if it reverts to its 1957-to-date median valuation level. The downside estimate for the S&P Industrials Index, however, is almost -40%. Why such a huge difference?

May 05 2017

Estimating The Downside

  • May 5, 2017

We remain cyclically bullish on equities, but nonetheless like to engage in occasional downside “target practice” to shape our expectations for the next bear market.

Apr 21 2017

Don’t Call It A Bubble

  • Apr 21, 2017

Thanks to reasonable valuations outside the United States, our work finds global equities only moderately above their long-term valuation norms. 

Feb 07 2017

Estimating the Downside - February 2017

  • Feb 7, 2017

The S&P 500 gained 1.9% in January. Based on the 1957-to-date valuation metrics presented, the potential downside compared to its historical average remained the same as last month’s reading (-21%).

Oct 07 2016

Foreign Equities: Cure For Altitude Sickness?

  • Oct 7, 2016

When we complain about the stock market’s inflated valuation levels, we’re unintentionally giving short shrift to the 50% of the global-market capitalization that resides outside the U.S. We’d be hard-pressed to describe the valuation of Developed foreign markets as any higher than neutral.

Aug 05 2016

Bubble Or Not?

  • Aug 5, 2016

To revisit the all-time valuation peak of March 2000, the S&P 500 would have to reach 3455 (not a forecast!). A reversion to 1957-to-date median valuations implies an S&P 500 loss of 22%. That’s a serious loss, but hardly on the order of a “busted bubble.”

Jul 08 2016

Estimating the Downside - July 2016

  • Jul 8, 2016

Back to the medians (1957 to date): S&P 500 19% downside.

Mar 08 2016

Another Look At Median Valuations

  • Mar 8, 2016

While the past several months’ reversion in valuation measures has certainly wrung some of the risk out of the market, if the bear market reasserts itself and drives stocks to valuations seen at average cycle lows, downside risks are still substantial.

Feb 05 2016

Estimating the Downside - February 2016

  • Feb 5, 2016

The S&P Industrials’ downside to mean valuation (excludes Utilities and Financials) is 24%, about 3% less than last month’s reading.

Jan 08 2016

Estimating the Downside - January 2016

  • Jan 8, 2016

The S&P 500 lost 1.8% (price only) in December. Based on the 1957-to-date valuation metrics presented, downside to its historical average decreased by about 2% from last month’s –19% reading.

Dec 08 2015

Estimating The Downside

  • Dec 8, 2015

Following August’s market break, we produced a set of potential downside targets derived from a mix of technical retracements, “average” bear market declines, and an assumed reversion-to-the-median in S&P 500 valuations. Little has changed here.

Nov 06 2015

Estimating the Downside - November 2015

  • Nov 6, 2015

BACK TO THE MEDIANS (1957 To Date): S&P 500 18% Downside

The S&P 500 gained 8.3% (price only) in October. Based on the 1957-to-date valuation metrics presented below, downside to its historical average increased by about 6% from last month’s –12% reading. The S&P Industrials’ downside to mean valuation (excludes Utilities and Financials) is 30%, about 3% greater than last month’s reading.

Sep 09 2015

How Far Could It Fall?

  • Sep 9, 2015
Our valuation work shows many “garden variety” cyclical bear markets bottom out fairly close to long-term median valuation levels on the S&P 500. A reversion to median valuations would entail a peak-to-trough S&P 500 loss of –21.1%.
Sep 09 2015

"Oversold" Doesn't Mean BUY

  • Sep 9, 2015
Some of the worst declines in market history occurred after conventional market momentum readings first became deeply oversold—including 1987 and the last half of the 2008-09 collapse.
Feb 05 2015

Estimating The Downside - February 2015

  • Feb 5, 2015

The S&P 500 lost 3.1% (price only) in January. Based on the 1957-to-date valuation metrics presented below, downside to its historical average decreased by about 1% from last month’s reading of –15%.

Jan 08 2015

Estimating The Downside - January 2015

  • Jan 8, 2015

The S&P 500 lost 0.4% (price only) in December. Based on the 1957-to-date valuation metrics presented below, downside to its historical average decreased by about 1% from last month’s reading of –16%.

Dec 05 2014

Broadly Expensive — Downside To Past Market Highs (And Lows)

  • Dec 5, 2014

The median S&P 500 stock is now expensive enough that we’re able to estimate its potential downside to prior bull market highs! Based on an average of four valuation measures, the median stock needs to drop about –11% to match the typical valuations at the eve of a cyclical bear market.

Oct 08 2013

Estimating Downside - October 2013

  • Oct 8, 2013

The S&P 500 gained 3.0% (price only) in September. Based on the valuation metrics presented in the table below, the S&P 500 has 9% downside to reach its historical average. The S&P Industrials (excludes Utilities and Financials) now has 22% downside to reach mean valuation.

Sep 10 2013

Estimating The Downside - September 2013

  • Sep 10, 2013

The S&P 500 lost 3.1% (price only) in August. Based on the valuation metrics presented in the table below, the S&P 500 is 8% above its historical average. The S&P Industrials (excludes Utilities and Financials) now has 20% downside to reach mean valuation.

Aug 06 2013

Estimating The Downside - August 2013

  • Aug 6, 2013

The S&P 500 gained 4.9% (price only) in July. Based on the valuation metrics presented in the table below, the S&P 500 is 12% above its historical average. S&P Industrials (excludes Utilities and Financials) now have 21% downside to reach mean valuation.

Mar 05 2008

Profit Margins In Retreat....The Mathematics Of The Downside

  • Mar 5, 2008

Profit margins contracting. Assuming margins fall back to median historical levels, this implies a market decline of about 18%.

 

Aug 05 2006

Weekly New High/New Low Data Not Yet Indicating A Stock Market Bottom

  • Aug 5, 2006

We meticulously comb through the lists of weekly new highs and new lows so that we exclude those derivatives and non-operating companies, in order to get a true picture of the stock market health.